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starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. >> from this day forward, it's going to be only ameri st. >> reality check. after promising so much so fast, claiming victory again and again. >> i got it done in the first 100 days. you think that's easy? >> what has trump really accomplished? the surprising answers from our team of reporters. expert analysts. and our brand-new poll. and now, with that day of judgment fast approaching -- >> it's going to be great. it will happen. >> what does trump have planned for his final 100-day surprise? >> we'll be having a big announcement on wednesday. plus, one of trump's
earliest most influential supporters. attorney general jeff sessions in his first sunday show interview. all angles on the extraordinary first 100 days of this unprecedented presidency. from abc news, it's "this week." here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. good morning. when it comes to politics, not much unites us these days. i bet we all agree donald trump, love him or hate him, is a different kind of president. unlike any we have seen before. running for president, he broke all the rules and won. being president, it turns out, a bit more complicated. and as he completes his first 100 days this week, even trump seems conflicted. on tuesday, he boasted of the best start of any president ever. by friday, he was calling the 100-day benchmark ridiculous. by this time next week, he could be the first president in history to face a government shutdown in his first 100 days. over the next hour, we'll take a
deep dive into president trump's tumultuous start. what's working, what's not. what he must do now to make good on his promise of massive change. we begin with striking new results from our poll with "the washington post." trump in a deep hole. the worst approval ratings around the 100 half day mark for my president many modern times. 42% of americans give him a thumbs up. 53% disapprove. and as you see in this chart, no other president has been underwater like that. the average rating since truman, 69-19. remember, for most presidents, this is the honeymoon period. over time, the ratings drift down. they rarely, if ever, go up. right now, a majority, 53% do think the president is a strong leader. but nearly 6 in 10 doubt his honesty, temperament, empathy, and judgment. 53% move he's not accomplished that much in this first three months. one big bright spot, no buyer's remorse.
96% of supporters stand by their vote. and get this, if a new election were held today, our poll shows trump would even beat hillary clinton in the popular vote. that finding is a flashing red light for democrats. we're going to analyze their predicament today, as well. explore whether a president can govern at home when only his base gives him the benefit of the doubt. and what it means with security threats overseas. will the country stand by an unpopular president if crisis hits? first up, our man in the white house briefing room every day. jonathan karl. let's start on a reality check. >> no administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days, that includes on military, on the border, on trade, on regulation, on law enforcement. >> that is the kind of hyperbolic claim we have come to expect from the president. it's hard to think what kind of standard it could be true on. but even by the standard he set
for himself on the legislative front, he's not meeting the mark. >> on one hand, george, donald trump hads tr has truly shaken washington. he has big plans for the rest of the year. but by the standards that he set for himself during the campaign, there is no question that he's fallen dramatically short in the first 100 days. take a look at this. back in october, he offered what he called a contract with the american voter. ten specific promises. ten pieces of legislation he promised to introduce and quote fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my administration. well, george, only o of os that is repealing and replacing obamacare. obviously, that hasn't passed. there is one area where there has been a significant impact in the first 100 days and that's on regulations. cutting, rolling back regulations that obama put in
place, especially on the environment. his economic team believe this is already having an impact on business. they believe that ultimately, rolling back those regulations could have more of an impact that tax reform. and george, you mentioned him saying this is a ridiculous mark. i gotta tell you, i'm seeing a mad scramble in the west wing to try to get points on the board before the 100-day marker. they want to make to pass health care. there's tax reform. you mentioned the promise he made on friday that he'll unveil a plan for tax reform on wednesday of next week. this shocked his own top advisers. the idea had been floated a few days earlier. they agreed they wouldn't do it yet. it wasn't ready. then they heard him say it. clearly an indication he wants to get something more done before they reach that 100 days. >> how about the white house behind the scenes. pretty unsettled. some of it spilled out into the public. there has been some talk of a shakeup. has that settled down? you still think there is one coming? >> the infighting
seems to have settled. a bit. i do believe we'll see personnel changes. perhaps as soon as the coming weeks. no question the president is hearing from his outside advisers. the people he trusts on the outside urging him to make some significant changes to the white house management structure. i don't think it's immediate. i would not be surprised to see it coming in the coming weeks. >> thank you, jon. let's move to terry moran in london. the world so shocked at first by the election of donald trump and some of his promises. but if you look at how he's been handling some of his various meetings overseas. some sense that the world is changing trump more than trump is changing the world. >> i think what the president is learning is summed up by a british prime minister. someears ago. he was asked, so what is your foreign policy? he said, evens, dear boy, events.
in just the first 100 days, president trump has had to deal with the syrian chemical weapons attack, the accelerating north korean nuclear crisis. in doing so, he's found nations change leaders. changing the national interest is harder. he finds advisers who know how the united states handles themselves on this regard. russia, whatever he wanted to do, changing the relationship with russia, it's a geostrategic fact that the national interests of russia and the united states in places like syria and eastern europe, it's just an tatagonistt that's just what he had to deal with. that said, he's made a huge mark on trade and climate change. in that way, he's turning the united states around in the world. >> in the meantime, his populist message. he rode that wave following the brexit vote. you've been reporting on that across europe. >> it's amazing to see the reaction of europe to donald trump's election. when he won, it was seen as a
fire bell in the night. he crystallized this sentiment in many, many countries. they think the establishment, the media, the corporate establishment does not have their backs. then he started governing. there was almost a trump backlash. people alarmed at the failure of the muslim travel ban, which was too extreme for a lot of european voters to begin with. at the failure of health care. at the sense this was a daily melodrama in the white house that was sometimes unpredictable. sometimes unhinged. when i spoke to marine le pen who may be the next president in france, she wanted to hitch her star to donald trump early on. when i talked to her a couple of weeks ago, she was distancing herself. i am my own woman. we have our own issues in france. and you see that. people much more wary of the kind of leadership. once again, he does represent around the world a new kind of politics. that voters are desperate for. >> we'll see that french election today. terry moran, thank you very much. trump is unprecedented in so many ways. a big one. no president in modern times has
continued to profit from a sprawling business empire so connected to his personal brand. let's bring in rebecca jarvis in front of the trump hotel in las vegas. some ethics experts already saying there's never been a worse conflict of interest. they say the fact that the president continues to profit from his private businesses is a violation of the constitution. the lawsuits have begun. >> that's right, george. short of selling all of those assets, putting them into a blind trust run by someone other than the family, these conflicts of interest are bound to pop up. trump's businesses span more than 500 companies, based from here in las vegas and around the world. one big issue is that the counter party in a number of these foreign deals have close connections to, for example, foreign governments. the other issue is that because this is the real estate business, a number of those deals are done with shell companies. and george, we don't know who the counterparty is in the shell companies.
often, we're blind to the identity of those individuals. >> not without his tax returns, we don't. the public doesn't seem too concerned about that right now. our poll does show they is have questions about the president having his daughter and son-in-law in the white house. 61% disapprove. those two have gone farther in separating themselves from their businesses. but there are plenty of minefields there, as well. >> absolutely, george. so jared kushner has divested of many of his real estate holdings. ivanka trump has handed over the employee her company to an who runs the day-to-day operations. but already, we have seen these issues coming up. for example, just a handful of weeks ago, ivanka trump and jared kushner dined at mar-a-lago with the president of china, the very same day her business won three trademark approvals inside of china. so, george, we do continue to see here these questions, even with the family's making efforts
to divest themselves of some of these holdings. still, the questions remain. >> rebecca, thank you very much. adds we saw from the poll, the president is holding a strong grip on his base. 96% of his voters say they would vote for him again. i want to bring in a man who talks to a big chunk of those voters every day. bill cunningham. radio host. broadcast in kentucky and ohio. solid trump country there in ohio. how do you explain the grip the president maintains on those voters? >> i think largely it's emotional. donald trump is a rock star. to give you some idea, we're the middle of trump country. i can walk or drive to canada, mexico, the atlantic ocean, and the border of california and never set foot in a clinton state or a clinton county. in cincinnati, also, "usa today" not exactly a conservative publication, sent out a bunch of reporters into southern ohio and kentucky a few weeks ago to get ready for a story today. the first sentence of the story is, keep it up, president trump.
i think there's a disconnect among the real people who live in america and the coastal elites. i can go weeks and weeks and never get a phone call from anyone criticizing the trumpster. we love donald j. trump. >> so they love the fact that he's a rock star. what do they want him to keep up? what is the most important thing they want him to get done for them right now? >> for real people, it's about jobs, the economy, immigration. think about this. since he took office, about $2.5 trillion has been put into the american economy through the stock market. the regulation cutback in one study had saving american businesses about $86 billion in one year. with immigration, ohioans, monroe, ohio, has an ms 13 problem. pike county, east of cincinnati, has an ms 13 marijuana grow operation. if you cut down on illegal immigration, you cut down on criminals and heroine. 3,000 ohio yans are going to die this year from heroine overdoses.
that's not coming from tennessee. it's coming from guadalajara. everywhere i look. regulations. the stock market. coal will come back. infrastructure, i see successes everywhere. when i listen to the coastal elites talk about how trump is doing this, trump is doing that, i think about normal americans like me. and i'm darn proud to have him as our president. >> are you hearing any warning signs out there? >> you know, george, to be honest with you, no. maybe it was -- think out is idea. when obama was in the white house, when obama was attacked, his core supporters stood up as proud warriors and defended him. when we see trump under withering attacks, morning, noon, and night from the main stream media, from the front page, "new york times," "washington post." we want to harden our support for trump. because we know the alternative was hillary clinton? are you kidding me? hillary clinton? we had nothing to do with her. in fact, there were counties in ohio that voted 60% over what romney won four years ago. this is the middle of trump country.
and maybe we see things that bright, smart people in new york city don't see. >> that is the view from trump country. let's talk to bright smart people here in new york city. our experts the. the former speaker of the house newt gingrich. democratic strategist stephanie cutter. our political analyst, matthew dowd. roland martin, host and managing editor of news one now. matthew dowd, we heard bill cunningham's take. your take on the first 100 days. >> i look at it this way. good news, bad news, really bad news for president trump in this. the poll. the good news, he's got a solid level of support. it doesn't surprise me. there's a thing in sociology called anchoring. voters anchor. donald trump has an emotional connection. you can't break an emotional connection with a rational argument. you just can't. richard nixon kept a majority of his vote up until the day he resigned. the bad news is a majority of the country doesn't think he's honest and trustworthy. and still questions his temperament.
the really bad news is, this is a fact i looked up this morning. no president has ever finished his first term going into a re-election with a higher approval rating than he had at his 100 days. that's a problem. the interesting thing is, democrats have not taken advantage ny of that. >> we'll talk about the democrats. how about that last point, mr. speaker, from matthew dowd? you start out high here. you don't tend to find things that make you do higher. >> you guys all collectively lived through trump knocking off other republicans. knocking off hillary. being wrong about it every stage. you turn around and play the same conventional wisdom. donald trump is the most divisive president since abraham lincoln. he represents an alternative world. you have riots at berkeley. you have two parallel universes here. there's a funny megyn kelly interview where she showed me all this polling data. i said, look, they're two universes. if yours is right, hillary clinton is president. if ours is right, donald trump is president.
>> i completely take that point. that's how he's being seen in parts of the country. how does it affect the governing? can you govern effectively? >> sure. you know, as you have done it. presidents are really powerful. presidents who are willful and strong-willed and focused have enormous capability to move the system. second, i have a simple test. reagan, in his farewell address, said, i'm so proud together we created 19 million jobs. if trump has the economy rolling in 2020, he'll be re-elected. if he doesn't, he has a problem. >> it's called patience. those people saying they're feeling wonderful about trump. those same places, screw with their health care. their education. so day can love trump all day. but when you start looking at his policies, his budget, those same people are going to be crying because his policies are going to hurt them the most. you talk about coal coming back. we lost more retail jobs under trump than the number of coal jobs in america.
coal is not coming back. again, they think that because he keeps saying it. okay. go right ahead. all you have to do is wait for it. those same folks are going to be crying a year fr now. >> excuse me. i -- actually agree with a little bit of what everybody has said here. i think that 100 days is not an extraordinary amount of time for a president who has never governed, never really stepped foot in washington, to walk into the white house doors d learwh it mes to be ident. and clearly, trump is learning in real time on the job. we saw that with health care. he wasn't able to accomplish anything with health care because he had no idea how congress worked. >> it was so hard. >> he had no idea how health care worked. will that change in the next go-round? i would like to believe our president of the united states understands how the american health care system works. i think we have to look at this in a bigger picture.
these voters that we're talking about. the trump voters, the president still does have a halo effect with them. he hasn't done anything to hurt them, that they see yet. he hasn't really done anything to help them. what's he done? he's put forward a travel ban that's been reversed by the courts. he's rolled back women's rights. he's rolled back lgbt rights. he's shrinking regulation. those things don't have an everyday impact on those people's lives. as roland said, as budgets get passed, legislation moves, as their lives don't get better, all of that is going to change. >> i think donald trump has always benefited like a guy in basketball that can push up against somebody. right? the reason he benefits is because he's pushed up against hillary clinton. that's the problem the democrats have. they have to have an emerging leader. if they don't have an emerging leader that is popular, donald trump is going to continue to do well.
the 100 days is really a p.r. fiction started by fdr. the first 100 days doesn't tell you much. i look at the first 100 days in three ways. one, how is your approval rating? it's bad for donald trump. what is your level of acceptance on your policies? it's bad for donald trump. and third is the accountability on your own standard. on donald trump's own standard of what he said he was going to do, it's not well. it's like a guy who says he's going to lose 20 pounds in 100 days, and brags to everybody about it. and at the end of that, he says, why are you holding me to that standard? >> i want to bring that to the speaker. he's going to introduce something on tax reform, maybe some principles, on wednesday. all while facing the possibility of a government shutdown next week. how does he maneuver through that? >> first of all, i don't think donald j. trump worries a lot
about next saturday. >> except for golf. >> not yet. except for golf. this is a guy who has built an empire. by thinking about very long-term things. he's been very patient. i think that stephanie had it right. >> you're describing donald trump as patient? >> very. he's patient strategically. as enormous energy tactically. go back and look at the polls. look at what he went through to be president. this is a guy who said, i can be president. everyone else literally laughed at him. here's what i think he's got to do. and i think he will do. the odds are very high that the house republicans will pass a health reform bill. dave just did a -- >> maybe not next week but sometime -- >> the odds are high that by next friday, they'll pass a one-week extension, not close the government. and have to think about it. they may then pass another week extension. they're all going to budge it up. conservative supreme court justice. done. coming across the border down by 65%, 70%. that's a fact.
having a guy like john kelly in charge of homeland security is very impressive if you're a conservative. they've passed 28 bills. have had 25 or 26 executive orders. if you're a normal trump supporter, you're thinking, okay, he's getting his brains beaten out by the elite media, that's all right. in fact, he's getting a lot done. you watch the contrast. i'm frankly very angry about it. the white house correspondents' dinner has brought in a person viciously anti-republican, anti-trump, anti-gun rights. and you're going to watch people who look at that -- people in ohio who look at that on c-span and watch trump's rally that night, which is very smart. and they'll say, which america do i identify with? >> they're bringing in a comedian. whatever you want to call him. he's a comedian. you talk about this whole deal with culture elites. i travel across this country, okay.
somebody who is born and raised in texas. the bottom line is those same very people who say they're loving trump, they're also scared to death of his health care bill. and if the house republicans pass a bill that goingo affect their health care, trust me. you thk those town halls have been tough so far. these same republicans are scared to death, that's why they're canceling them. and those are the same real people you're talking about. >> they're changing the bill. they're going to have guaranteed issue. >> you're changing a bill that nobody knows what it is. nobody sees what it is. and when those very same people, they see the real effects on how it affects them, they're going to stop loving trump. >> i think there are a couple of signs here. our talk about donald trump versus hillary clinton and washington elites versus donald trump, we're heading into a midterm election. a lot of that is not going to matter except for how much of a drag donald trump is on the republican ticket. in terms of energy and enthusiasm with republicans turning out, there are a couple of signs here that republicans
are worried. number one, there's a lot of anxiety about whether they do health care. why are they going to take this vote? it will impact the outcome of the midterm elections when you're taking away somebody's health care rights, premiums are going up, they're going to own that, big time. the second thing is we do have some evidence through these special elections that the democratic base, while may not be as unified as it could, is an extremely energized. trump is a big factor. it's not the whole answer. but it is a big factor. we see that in georgia. >> by the anti-trump pact. one of the things we also saw in this poll, matthew, and you hinted at this, most persons, 67%, think democrats are more out of touch than republicans. >> this is how donald trump benefits. this is why democrats are still -- it's a problematic situation for the democrats. and i think, everything -- god love her, but every time hillary clinton shows up at a speech, it doesn't help the democrats.
they have to, in my view, figure out who is their next generation, the next round of leaders who can push up against donald trump. i'll take exception to a couple of things the speaker said. i grew up in michigan. detroit. i have ten brothers and sisters and i live in texas. i see the panorama of the country. i was one of the first people that said donald trump was going to win the nomination and beat the others because i saw the lel of support out there. keep in mind, donald trump since he was inaated as the president, a majority of the country has disapproved. yes, while we have this. we can keep talking about elites, elites, elites. almost every single urban area of the country. austin, dallas, new orleans, st. louis, cincinnati. kansas city, houston. the city of cincinnati, in spite of that. cleveland, they didn't vote for -- >> it's urban rural. >> two quick things. one study last week, 91% of the elite media coverage has been negative. trump will have negative coverage.
it will have an effect on the polls. this is the war we're in. >> war of facts and accountability. >> no, it's a war you guys make up. the second thing is -- >> you guys? >> i believe, i'm happy to come back and talk about it later in a couple of weeks. by the time they get a bill through the house, the senate, and through conference committee, they'll be able to answer every question you're talking about. >> the marker has been set. we'll have you all back. that was great discussion. thank you all. up next, we're going to hear from the president's top lawyer, attorney general jeff sessions, in his first "this week" interview. when we come back. ray's always been different. last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. at&t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. remote moisture sensors use a reliable network to tell them when and where to water.
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most fervent supporter in the senate. jeff sessions. now the attorney general of the united states. general sessions, welcome to "this week." thank you for coming on this morning. >> thank you, george. to be, good to be with you. >> let's go back to the contract with the american voter that donald trump had. top of the list is the border wall. he said he was going to end the illegal immigration. fully funds the construction of a wall on the southern border with the full understanding that the country of mexico will be reimbursing the united states for the full cost of such wall. the president is trying to get a downpayment in the government funding bill that needs to pass this week. democrats insist it's a nonstarter. is the president going to insist on the funding even if it means a government shutdown? >> i can't imagine the democrats would shut down the government over an objection to building a -- a downpayment on a wall that can end the lawlessness.
we have already received, george, a 60% or so reduction. march was the lowest illegal immigration month in 17 years. but our goal is not to reduce it 50%, 60%, 70%, but to end illegality. have a lawful system. people apply to come here. they wait their turn. a system we can be proud of. as americans. >> the president won't sign a bill if it doesn't include funding for the wall? >> he'll make those decisions. i'm not engaged in the budget negotiations. but i know one thing. we need that wall. it will help us complete the promise that the president has made to the american people. that's what they want. the american people have a right to expect it. i believe congress will eventually deliver. >> as you may know, it's not just the democrats opposed to the wall. "the wall street journal" says not a single member of the house or senate in the border states would commit to funding the wall. none of the four senators in the border states. he has a problem with his own party there as well. you say the democrats would shut down the government. if the president vetoes that bill, he's likely to get a lot
of that blame. >> well, i don't know about that. isle tell you one thing. he deserves credit for general kelly. for a complete reverse until the morale of the i.c.e. officers and the border officers. we met with some of them last week. we are reversing their morale. that's one reason i supported him. i truly believed we could do this. that's one of the reasons i supported him. this is a tremendous achievement a lot of people thought was impossible. i do believe this wall, this barrier is going to be essential in ending the illegality. it will save us billions of dollars. the numbers of people that are coming will be reduced dramatically. the amount of drugs entering our country will be reduced. the number of people we're housing in detention centers will be declining. we'll get people out of the country to the countries that are not taking them back after they're due to be deported. it will save us hundreds of millions, billions of dollars.
so this is going to be a great achooeftment for the american people. it's good, and decent, and the right thing to do. >> you sound quite confident. do you have evidence mexico will pay for it? >> we're going to get it paid for one way or the other. i know there's $4 billion a year in excess payments according to the department of the treasury's own inspector general. several years ago, that are going to payments to people, tax credits that they shouldn't get. they're mostly mexicans. those kind of things add up. $4 billion a year for ten years is $40 billion. there are a lot of ways we can find money to help pay for this. in the long run it's -- >> how are you going to capture that money? >> what's that? >> how are you going to capture that money? >> the department of treasury, several years ago, under the obama administration said if you change the regulations and enforce them properly, it would save up to4 billion a year. there are other things we can do at the border to create revenue
that would pay for the wall. there's no doubt about that. >> but with your discussions, mexico has given no indication at all that the government of mexico is prepared to pay a single cent for the wall. >> i don't expect their government to appropriate money for it. there are ways we can deal with our trade situation to create the revenue to pay for it. no doubt about it. >> let's go to the situation of the dreamers. the immigrants brought here as children. the president says they should rest easy. some of his supporters are saying that is a broken promise. let's listen. >> during the campaign, president now president trump had said he was going to end that on day one because it's an unconstitutional action by the president. and of course he's right. it is illegal. and, they've done nothing to it. they've done absolutely nothing. >> he says work permits are still being issued to dreamers who didn't have them before. is he right when he says this promise has been broken? >> well, i think the president
is honoring his promise to end the lawlessness at the border. the first thing we need to do is to stop the additional flow of illegal people into our country. many of these are involved in criminal enterprises. hauling drugs, that kind of thing. we need to end that. we have to wrestle with what to do about people who have been here a long time. but i would say that the president is honoring his commitments to the american people. to fix this border and we're beginning to stay at it. the border patrol is working very hard and so is the department of justice. we're going to back them up. >> even though he hasn't kept this specific commitment right there, the president said to the associated press that the dreamers should rest easy. he's not going after the dreamers. that's his policy. he said. is it the policy of the justice department? >> homeland security has primary jurisdiction there. their first and strongest priority, no doubt about it, is the criminal element that we have in our country that have come here illegally.
they're focusing primarily on that. and there's no doubt the president has sympathy for young people brought here at early ages. >> so ey can rest easy? >> we'll see. i believe that everyone that enters the country unlawfully is subject to being deported. however, we've got -- we don't have the ability to round up everybody and there's no plans to do that. but we're going to focus first as the president has directed us, on the criminal element and we have got to get that under control. >> your justice department this week sent a letter to several cities and the state of california, these so-called sanctuary cities, warning they're putting their federal funding at risk if they don't begin to cooperate more with the federal government. the attorney general of california is coming up next. he said federal threats to take away resources from law enforcement or our people in an attempt to bully states and localities into carrying out the
new administration's unsound deportation plan are reckless and jeopardize public safety. your response? >> it's nothing reckless or extreme about saying if someone comes to our doesn't unlawfully and commits a crime, another crime in the country, they should be deported. that's what the law says. you shall be deported. it says state and local developments cannot bar their police and law enforcement officers from sharing information with the federal government. in other words, if a person commits a crime in los angeles or in the case of kate steinle, san francisco, and an individual there is released multiple times and comes back to san francisco because it's a sanctuary city and commits a murder, that is the kind of situation that that person should have been deported previously and not allowed to return. there is nothing extreme and unreasonable about that.
i urge our politicians and mayors to listen to their law officers. let's work together. cooperate between the federal and state authorities. let's remove dangerous criminals from america. it only makes common sense. >> that letter did raise the ire of one prominent law enforcement official here in the state, in new york city, james o'neal, the police commissioner. it said new york city continues to see gang murder after gang murder, the predictable consequence the city'so on crime stance. commissioner o'neil says that make his blood boil. the record shows that crime is at record lows right now in new york city. murder is below the national average. >> that statement was focused on the sanctuary city policy. >> it said soft on crime. >> i know. i know. for four decades, new york has been a fabulous city for law enforcement. they have developed some of the best techniques ever.
they're so far ahead of many other cities. i think we should all study the tactics developed. rudy giuliani and others over the decades have transformed new york. they have proven community-based policing, broken windows policing can make cities safer, save lives, and other cities need to be studying what they've done. >> sounds like you're taking back what you wrote? >> well, that was a statement that went out dealing with the sanctuary city situation. thpolice officers, the sergeants association has made a statement saying jeff sessions is correct. this is a soft on crime policy. but look. we want to work with our mayors. we want to improve law enforcement in america. half of the murders in new york are gang-related. many of those are people -- gangs who have illegal aliens involved in them. so why would you not want to deport those and make the city even safer. >> let's talk about the travel ban.
you're taking some heat from comments you made on the mark levin show you made this week. let's take a listen. >> i really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the pacific can issue an order that stops the president of the united states from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional power. >> of course, that island in the pacific is the state of hawaii. you have been blasted by hawaii senators. one called it dog whistle politics. your response? >> they filed a suit. the plaintiffs get to choose the venue. they filed a lawsuit in hawaii. the first decision on the new, executive order came out of hawaii. all i was saying was the president -- >> why not just call it the >> the president -- nobody has a sense of humor anymore. look. the president has to deal with the department of defense. the national intelligence agencies. cia. he knows the threats to this
country. he is responsible for protecting america. this order is lawful. it's within his authority. constitutionally and explicit statutory authority. we're going to defend that order all the way up. and so you do have a situation in which one judge out of 700 in america has stopped this order. i think it's a mistake. and we're going to -- battle in the courts and i think we'll eventually win. >> at a rally last month, the president said this current ban is a watered down version of the original. he says we should push the first one all the way. >> the first one was lawful. i totally support the president's view that the first order was lawful. we spent tremendous amounts of time to respond and order -- write it in a way that would satisfy the courts. i'm more confident that the second order will be upheld. and the president has every
right to say that when you have dangerous countries, six countries, three of them are state sponsors of terrorism. three of them are failed states with terrorism -- terrorists in them. we need to be very careful. he's got a 90-day pause in entries from those countries. that's a reasonable thing. and try to review how we vet people from countries like that, and be careful about it. i think he has a duty to protect america. and the american people should support him 100%. >> general sessions, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, george. we have heard from the administration. how will democrats fight back? california attorney general javier becerra joins us next. javier becerra joins us next.
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i don't believe california wants to stop moving forward. how we'll move forward? whether at times we have to defend against a hostile external force or we have to advance something on our own? i can't tell you. i don't think california is looking to pick a fight. but we're ready for one. >> and there he is. the attorney general of california, javier becerra. he joins us from sacramento this morning. mr. attorney general, thank you for joining us. hostile external forces, is that the federal government? >> whoever wants to come at us. if that's hostility, we're ready. >> attorney general sessions first of all on the issue of sanctuary cities following up on the the letter he september to you and several cities, calling your policies reckless. he's not backing down at all. threatening the funding that's coming to your state. >> we're ready. we've been abiding by federal
law for quite some time before jeff sessions became attorney general. we're going to continue to abide by federal law and the u.s. constitution. we're hoping the federal government will also abide by the u.s. constitution. which gives my state the right to decide how to do public safety. that's not their responsibility. under the u.s. constitution. we respect that they have the responsibility to enforce immigration law. we're in the business of public safety. we're not in the business of deportation. >> you heard him. he said you're not fulfilling that duty. he pointed out the murder of kate steinle. >> he can show us how we're not doing that right now. i can tell you that we can prove anywhere we need to, whether the court of public opinion or the court of law, that we're protecting our people. that's why california today is the sixth largest economy in the world. kre we kre yated more jobs than number two florida and number three texas combined. >> there seems to be confusion
about the dreamers right now. we heard president trump say earlier in the week they should rest easy. the attorney general said everyone in the country in an undocumented way is vulnerable to deportation. >> yeah, it's not clear what we can trust. what statement we can believe in. that causes not just anxiety but nfion, not just for those immigrant family ts, but for our law enforcement personnel. we're in california trying to continue to move forward, to create those jobs. we just made major investment in building our roads and bridges and fixing our highways. while the federal government keeps talking about it, we're doing it. it's hard to move forward with what's coming from washington, d.c. when we're trying to continue to move forward. it's very difficult. i can understand why any dreamer, any immigrant family, anyone on the streets policing the streets to keep us safe, is uncertain about what donald trump and attorney general sessions are talking about. >> one of the cases in the news
this week, this man, juan montez. he says he was picked up by border agents inside the state of california. they dispute that. they say he was arrested after he came back in from mexico. do you have any independent information on that? >> not really. as you said, the facts are in dispute. i've been trying to reach out to attorney general sessions and dhs secretary kelly to get a sense of, what really is their policy when it comes to the dreamers. we have a policy in place that today, the president has not changed. we would like to know, is it, in fact, a policy of this president, and this administration and this attorney general to abide by the daca policy that allows dreamers to continue to go to school, and work, and believe they're not going to be out there and be apprehended by i.c.e. agents
simply because they look like people who were not born here. if you can figure that out. >> you're just coming off 24 years in the house of representatives. your former colleagues are facing a real decision on whether to exceed to the question by the president to fund the wall. general sessions says democrats are making a mistake. do you see any indications that they're prepared to give the president any of this funding. >> george, i'm still trying to figure out who believes a medieval situation to fix the immigrant problem is what we need. one, donald trump is reneging on his promise to pay. i think american taxpayers are very much aligned with mexico. none of them, not the taxpayers or mexico wants to pay for the medieval wall to try to fix our broken immigration system. republicans, if they had their act in order in congress, would
not have to worry about what democrats are doing. and the minority party, george.. i was a member of congress for 24 years in the majority and the minority. they cannot kill or pass a bill by the fact that you're in the minority. if the majority doesn't have its act together, you find a government shutdown in the making. right now, republicans can't get their act together. they're not reaching out the democrats to have a bipartisan solution. so if we don't have a budget in place, it's not because of a border wall or anything else. it's because republicans can't get their act together. for joining us this morning. >> thank you. when we come back, the critical election in france under way right now. it could send shockwaves around the world. we're live in paris with the latest. the world. we're live in paris with the latest.
that is the scene in paris today. tense, heavy police presence as voters head to the polls for the first round of the presidential elections. it is momentous. ripples could be felt across europe and around the world. our alex marquardt is on the scene. alex, how this turns out today is anyone's bet. >> reporter: it really is. it's a beautiful election sunday here in paris. these polling stations have been bustling all day. it's fair to say that this is the most highly anticipated and potentially disruptive election
in recent history. its ramifications will be felt here in france and well beyond it. it will be major test for this wave of populism that we have seen sweep across europe. much of the focus is on marine le pen. she's vowed to crack down on illegal immigration, on islamic extremism. promised to take france out of the eu and out of nato. and then there's the russian factor. she's seen as the favored candidate of vladimir putin. the russian president, whom she met last month. she's gotten millions of dollars in campaign loans from russian banks. it's far from a done deal that she'll go through to the second round. she's among the top four candidates. it's a significant chance. >> and president trump suggested he thinks that terrorist attack in france just the other day could end up helping marine le pen. i think people there are thinking even if she gets into the runoff likely would have a much harder time one on one against one of the other candidates? >> reporter: well, security will be a major factor in this election no matter what.
keep in mind, france is at the highest state of alert because of the terror attacks we have seen over the last 2 1/2 years. some 50,000 extra forces in the streets today. the big question is whether the terror attack on thursday that left one policeman dead will change the dynamics. it could. many immediately saying it could help le pen. but many experts saying it could help francois fillon. despite being plagued by a corruption scandal could be seen as a steadying hand. >> all eyes on france today. alex, thank you. we'll be right back after this from
straight ahead, french citizens in the bay area cast their votes in a critical election in france where 47 million people are heading to the polls. what's at stake, coming up. an extra meaningful comeback for the warriors. why steph curry says it was important for the warriors to beat the blazers. good morning too. live look from mt. tam. it's 47 degrees. winds up to 22 miles an hour. so breezy, sunny afternoon ahead. but rain is in the offing. i'll have your accuweather seven day